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After finally hearing Dr. Zucker’s comments on the CBC Radio show I participated in that aired this past Monday, I had to sit and reflect. Dr. Zucker referred to us (parents of gender diverse children and the children themselves) as a “social experiment”. That doesn’t feel right, at all. He also called us a social movement, and a culture that meets for conferences and such, but that didn’t grate on me the same way his reference to a “social experiment” does, and for good reason.
These kids aren’t lab rats. His accusation insinuates
that we (parents and supportive physicians) are “dosing” our kids (with hormone blockers and hormones) the same sterile way a clinical researcher would administer drugs to a helpless lab animal and then sit back, take notes and see what happens. If this test fails, no problem. Move on to the next insignificant test trial, right? Wrong.
These are our lives, not experiments. Not meaningless little tests. Our parents aren’t the “Let’s inject them and see what happens!” type of folks either. Our children’s lives aren’t things we take lightly. We labor over every single decision. We lose sleep. We lose our friends and families. We listen to our kids beg not to go through the wrong puberty. We hear them crying at night in their beds after they have a nightmare about waking up as the wrong person. We die inside when we see our children struggle with having a body that doesn’t match their brain. We break our hearts (and our banks) to make sure our children can grow as healthy, safe and happy individuals. None of these decisions are made with a cold, detached motivation like an experiment. I find it incredibly insensitive to even suggest it, especially from someone who suggests they try to “help” families like ours.
Dr. Zucker intimated that some “boys” (aka assigned the male gender at birth based on sex organs) just see the color pink and think, “I’m a girl if I like pink!” when in fact he knows that it’s never that simple. It’s not just the dress, or the color, or the clothes. It’s the child’s deep identification with who they are, not what society traditionally refers to as “boy” or “girl”. In my opinion he consistently blurred the lines between gender identity and gender expression and as an “expert” he shouldn’t have as it confuses, not educates the listeners.
I wonder if any of the families who went to Dr. Zucker for help with gender identity would like to talk with me about their child’s sense of well-being afterward. What about his so-called 85% of kids who “changed their mind” and “wanted to live” in the gender assigned at birth? Did his strict and rigid reparative therapy produce happy, healthy, fully functioning individuals? How many of his patients went off the grid (and weren’t counted in his stats) because they were damaged by his methods and went on to identify in a way that didn’t fit the outcome of his own little experiment? How many of his patients killed themselves?
I envision a world with 100% healthy, safe and happy individuals. That’s not an experiment, that’s a feeling in my heart. I’m not a subculture of the population. I’m a mom. I’m not calling for a social movement. I’m encouraging everyone to have loving compassion for one another as we all stand in our truth whatever that looks like.
This is not a test. This is real life.
This is a powerful post and I love it. Absolutely love it. Thank you, Jen, for the work you are doing. A service for all person’s indeed. You inspire me.
Thank you Sharon, Your words are a gentle encouragement to me and I feel it. Best wishes, Jen
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please take a moment to think what is implied by those who believe that we are imposing transgender on our children…this dr. zucker sounds like a real asshat!
I am not sure about Dr. Zucker, but most hardcore behaviourists would see that gender identity = gender expression. It’s not that they are confused, but they are focused on the expression than the “intangible” and abstract “gender identity”.
It’s interesting how Zucker said that you parents are doing some “social experiment”, when his own reparative therapy is an “experiment” itself, and what’s worse is that his “Test subjects” (the gender non-conforming children) are not exactly “consenting participants”. So that’s even worse than the people he accuse…..
What if “Changed their minds” were nothing but building a big wall between their trueselves and the world, and repressing their identity to be ‘normal”? I mean, sure I believe that some children do change their minds and what not. But I’ve heard of many older-transitioners (or those that regretted not transitioning) who went back into the closet, tried to function like a “normal” man and no one around them were any wiser or felt that they weren’t functional.
I am dead set on not making this mistake. My parents are in deep denial and they wanted me to “go out to the real world and work for a few years to mature up”, before I know what’s good for me….good intentions, but that will just lead to my destruction.
Hi Sherlyn, You bring up many good points. I don’t think success is measured by meeting the doctor’s criteria of what’s “right”; I believe success is measured with the truth. I’ve heard from hundreds if not thousands of people at this point who have transitioned later in life and paid dearly for the journey. Their only wish was to be able to be heard, accepted and loved. That’s powerful. I agree with you. Be who you are! xo
Actually Jenn, I think that we ARE calling for a social movement where by WE ADULTS learn to listen to and respect our children, where we encourage our children to live their truth openly, honestly without shame or guilt. Novel concept I know but this does not mean that we are wrong. I always felt and thought that being a good parent meant trying to honor who my children were.
As for reparative therapy (does this imply that I’m somehow broken and need fixing) I have not experienced it. What I have experienced is knowing that I was “different” since I was about 4, that I was not comfortable in my own skin. There was no one to help, no one to talk with, I was on my own without language or knowledge to really understand. As a result I spent 60 years of my life being angry, depressed, self destructive. When I finally discovered my truth, that I am transsexual, voila so very many of my issues “magically” disappeared.
Jenn, please just trust both yourself and Hope. With your gentle guidance, love, and support, she WILL get it right as only she can in the end. The result will be a person who finds her true home earlier rather than later in life.
Thanks Cheryl, I wish we didn’t have to have a full-n social movement for accepting kids for who they are. But I can see how this feels like a movement towards acceptance. I get that. I hear your story of not having anyone to talk to and it crushes me. If the tables were turned, I would not have had a supportive environment either, but I guess that’s the path we are on and it leads us to who we are right here and right now. And that’s pretty fabulous really.
I do trust Hope, and I trust my parenting skills for following her lead, and Will’s as well. I have two children who rely on me to be their guide, and I aim to do a good job.
At least, I try. xo
You are so right. Parents & transgender children need support and compassion, not experimentation. Sucker must be a sociopath.
“Social Experiment” is not a medical term – it’s a political and ideological term.
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Dr. Zucker’s statistics are skewed because he didn’t focus his “treatment” on just transgender children but a whole range children who didn’t behave or express themselves “normally” to gender rules he used, so it’s reasonable he would have the numbers of transitioning children because he lumped them into an order of magnitude bigger pool of children who had no expression of gender identity or believed the were the opposite gender. He and his numbers are a fraud and has been exposed by others in the transcommunity. He should never be allowed near an interview and ignored if he is.
I am 14 years old and I started transitioning when I was 11. My parents have supported me 100% with blockers and clothes and everything. I am lucky. I do not get why it matters that this man has a different way of seeing things though. I don’t agree with him either but shouldn’t he be allowed to have his own opinion and way of doing things? The world is made up up so many different people with different opinions and that’s why its awesome. I don’t like it when people say that my doctor is wrong for allowing me to transition and be who I really am so why should I do it to him?
Thank you AAA for sharing your perspective.
I agree that we all have the right to our opinions. Everyone has their own format and space to share their opinions and this is the space where I share mine an explore my feelings about what impacts my child’s life. We are all entitled to our feelings and opinions.
Best wishes,
Jen
You are 100% correct about the fact that Dr. Zucker is entitled to his opinion, whether we agree with him or not. Nobody is saying he doesn’t have the right to believe what he does. Where it crosses the line is his “Conversion therapy” practice, which has a very high failure rate and has actually caused peopled to commit suicide. Google it and look for the articles written by peiole who actually attended these sessions. Red what they describer firsthand. Then come bak and weigh in on how unfair it is for everyone to decry this man.You will see why people are angry with Dr. Zucker. When your beliefs start killing people, it is time for everybody to speak out in defense of those who are dying.
In reality, many transsexual children end up realizing who they are and identifying in their early 20′s, anyways. I’m a 35 year old transsexual woman. I see too many young ones on the streets or with marginal housing, turning to prostitution for survival because their parents have been sold false expectations and then they reject the child when the child turns out to need to be the gender they really are. Ken Zucker is guilty of crimes against humanity, and should be stopped. PERIOD.
Julia is so right! Most of Zuckers “converted” trans people are realizing the truth, and that the reparative therapy was a lie. It should be outlawed, the same way that new laws are blocking homosexual reparative therapy.
I saw another reference to Zucker’s junk science. It makes me sad how often his abusive therapy has been quoted as truthful. How many thousands of parents have damaged their children by believeing the lies?